You weren't banned for using Runelite. You were banned for using mouse recording software to automate your gameplay for many hours across numerous game sessions. You also had a temporary Macroing offence in 2018, hence the permanent ban.
Any idea what "Macroing Major (OSHC)" stands for? The bit I'm confused about is OSHC, no one seems to know what it stands for.
It's an internal code that holds no relevance externally. It doesn't mean any particular cheat or anything.
Yeah I had no idea it was such a low amount of people, I don't feel as bad for only have fc now
e - apparently 1.2k is the amount of capes removed from accounts, I'll go back to feel shitty about my fc
Your firecape is nice :)
Never seen it this low at this time đ¤ˇââď¸ Also have seen screen shots of someone getting banned today with the ban being called bot busting.
We apply lots of these each day
I got my account back today too. I'm pretty sure it was a false positive since I played at least a couple hours every day before the ban and didn't notice anything unusual. They gave a generic response of unusual activity and didn't refund me any days of lost membership, but at least I got my account back. ÂŻ\(ă)/ÂŻ
It's often the case that an account is compromised without the owner knowing it, and is used to gold farm on the opposite game that's being played by the owner such as yourself. This may have been what happened with you, can't tell for sure without knowing what account it was, though.
We can see very clearly when an account is an alt, there's no need to worry if you're not doing anything nefarious
This account might be worth investigating for botting/account sharing for ranks. Because that tweet has got to be the weakest cover story for a hcim death in existence.
Responded here about the demise.
Too bad you weren't watching his stream when he was banned. Might have gotten unbanned 5 years ago.
The account is yet to be reviewed recently via that process, where it should be based on a few factors - namely the offence is very old, so more in-depth investigation is required - something which should be logged and checked by our appeals team in this case. I'm not trying to make things difficult here!
You can appeal that one via this link.
Hey, please get in touch with us via this form and we'll be able to help you out.
/u/JagexTyran - your thoughts here?
I've passed this on to be looked into, you* will find an inbox message on the RuneScape website shortly with further information.
Let me make sure I understand the process.
The system automatically bans.
A random daily sample gets checked.
If your account is not part of this daily sample, you are permanently banned with no appeal process.
- The system bans very blatant (to how a system can determine) bots (mass created gold farmers etc)
- The system flags other more bespoke/intelligent bots for manual review
- Flagged accounts are checked by an Anti Cheating Specialist
- Accounts are reviewed daily by Team Leads for accuracy
- Accounts can be appealed if compromised by third-parties via this link
Thanks for the insight, I didnât know a lot of that.
Right now, I know that thereâs a ton of skepticism when about the validity of the âmanual reviewâ label, (people just assume itâs bull) which leads to a lot of frustration. Is there anything you can say as to what aspects of an account lead it to be more likely to get manually tagged as a bot, even when itâs not? i. e. frequent trades, total level, xp gain, etc?
Getting tagged manually as a bot by mistake could be a number of things including incorrect labeling by a member of the team etc, unfortunately as much as I'd love to talk about botting and what flags accounts in the first place, that's something we won't do I'm afraid.
Agreed. Thatâs the double edged sword with automated systems thatâs get rid of obvious bots is that real players get hit from time to time.
It's human error that acts as a double edged sword - even though we use very few of them, automated bans are actually very accurate (much more so than human) but they are fed from human learning to help improve and make them effective, otherwise they would be wildly inaccurate and flag entire swaths of innocent users, or be very niche and therefore not effective in aiding to take out mass amount of bots (contrary to popular belief, we do ban over 15,000 bots per day in OSRS - mostly made up of 'suicide bots' created to generate a small amount of wealth and trade it off as quickly as possible). Whilst the automated system does ban a number of accounts, these are from heuristics built by the team and are only made live after vigorous checks. When they do eventually get made live, they are very restrictive on what type of account they look for and are reviewed frequently. The vast majority of accounts are all checked by members of staff - hence where human error unfortunately comes in to...
Read moreis this you admitting to being a bot?
We don't offer rollbacks for this type of situation I'm afraid.
Using any form of AHK can result in a permanent offence being applied to your account, the severity of abuse often determines whether you will get a temporary ban first or not. There is no "1:1 is safe" - even remapping keys using AHK will run the risk, and I suggest the use of Mouse Keys or remapping keys using your hardware vendors software if you're wishing to do so.
Iâve wanted to do this for a while, but given that the world hop limit always kicked in was really annoying. When I heard they revoked it, I thought why the hell not.
The purpose is more or less to stop the dicing bots as a whole. Sure, P-Mod would be awesome and help but thatâs not the end goal. Iâm honestly not going to stop reporting these accounts until all of them are gone and they have a proper prevention system towards this.
Itâs to show Jagex that what theyâre doing to prevent these bots isnât enough and in my eyes itâs disappointing that a random player has to not only go down the list reporting all these bots, but also post it on a PUBLIC forum (reddit) for it to actually get attention.
The first 2 days went un-noticed and it took a further 2 posts in order to see a change (banning approx 38 bots).
It's worth noting that we're not banning the accounts because you're specifically posting about them - we already go through and ban them en mass, however they're easy to create and therefore show up often, and we have to be cautious when banning them as quite a few are often hijacked.
Also, accounts we ban won't show as random [#] names on your ignore list - that's only when we remove the display name on top of a ban.
Does reporting them like this actually do anything?
And couldnât you potentially blacklist any âgamblingâ related names? Eg. BET/ROLL ect
Reporting does help, blocking names wouldn't be too worthwhile as there are surprisingly players who are playing legitimately with the name with no dodgy activity and as seen from the screenshot they would just go to jumbled up names.
I've just banned (or secured if compromised) over 3,500 accounts directly related to this activity. There's things in the works to hopefully stem the flow of this kind of behavior long term.