Sventek70

I get the need to make changes, and the fact that mods are simply that, mods and not supported. But rolling out these changes and forcing them with 0 warning or workaround other than an admin manually recoloring every dino is a joke. I run a small cluster where a few of us have spent hundreds of hours breeding including getting color combinations and to see all of that work just instantly gone on top of all of the other 'fun' bugs lately is making me want to simply put the cluster on life support and just be done with it, and I am sure I am not the only one.

This whole thing is just another huge FU to anyone not on official.

That won't be the only workaround soon. that is only the workaround for this specific instance (Which we were not expecting to occur). I'm getting a command added that will allow server admins to mass reapply colors based on the color definition name. In addition, rather than doing this manual reapplication of colors to fix it this time, if you are willing to wait for it, this command will also reroll mutation colors to replace the ones lost this time around (The data necessary to recover them completely just does not exist at this time for the command to be able to fix this occurrence retroactively).

Subclavian

Know what you do if your change caused a problem? You back it out if you can't fix it right away. Implement the parts that work instead of being like, 'yeah well, there's bigger things to worry about' because some people will actually care a lot. My mother in law is disabled, playing Ark is one of the few things she can do without being in severe pain and she cares a lot about the color.

Also the explanation doesn't make any sense, how would mods that do nothing to the color array be affected? Explain to me how S+, something has nothing to do with dinos at all, also experiences this issue.

Before this change, for every mod installed, the core color definitions were being duplicated. This only impacted mutation colors though because for mutations it randomly selects from any and all colors in the master color array (rather than only a subset in dino specific color definitions matched by name.) Mutations were selecting duplicated color definitions and now the duplicates are no longer there.

There is also more to the thread this screenshot was taken from, including where I talk about (in addition to trying to make the problem correctable in the future, because this isn't a problem that can be completely removed with respect to mods being able to add new colors at all) also making it so that where these colors were lost that it will reroll new color mutations for everyone that was impacted by this.

HanPolio

Do you work for Wildcard?

Yes

After some investigation, I understand the cause of this...

Unfortunately, any colors lost from this update can't be automatically recovered :'( .Dino colors, after their randomized selection, are saved to the creature and referenced by an index number only that is associated with a master array of colors. (No we can't change this unless you want your servers to slow to a crawl, string comparisons are resource expensive)

Unofficial servers that run mods are vulnerable to this issue, any change to the order of mods or anything that alters the contents of that array can cause the index to suddenly match up with a different color. It can happen at any time to any unofficial server (This last update had a pretty important change to the way mods merge color definitions to cut down on some bloated data, and that caused the issue this time)

However, I do recognize how much time everyone puts into breeding and hunting for their choice colors, and while we can't recover the lost colors, I a...

Runnico

It is unofficial, a couple mods, but nothing that changes dino colors. These are the server settings and mods: https://alliancegamingservers.com/ARK/CrossARK2/Settings

Understood, thank you for the information.

Hello, I'm investigating the cause of this, but I need to confirm what environment you are playing on. There are certain circumstances where this change in colors may be expected.
Are you playing on official servers or is this a personal server?
If it is a personal server are you playing with any mods that add new dino colors to the game?

hiimzech

its plain obvious you have to level them to a specific level, then turn them into an item and stick it in the cooking pot for additional levels

too much work man. and once a year only. this isn't going to sit well with a lot of people...

hmmmmmmm...

ThePastyWhite

Are you saying theres mini troodons???????? Can it ride on my shoulder?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

Why would you want that?! D:
No, Raptor Claus had to take them in because they didn't pass focus testing. I'm sorry.

BOOM2ndPOWER

do they increase your player level only when theyre on your shoulder?

Pfffft I'm not spilling the beans on how they function. At least some part of the gift has to be a surprise ;)

BOOM2ndPOWER

how tf do chibis work lol

Well, we sprinkled some elf dust on them, shrunk them down with magic, contorted their bones in horrible ways, and then trapped them in items.
Raptor Claus' little helper troodons had some concerns about the process, but we think it turned out well.

Majin_Romulus

So is that a no? The raptor pounce bug isn't gonna be fixed?

I don't have an answer currently. I don't have visibility on every issue (This one included), and right now we are trying to fry some pretty big fish. My recommendation is to look at the feedback/suggestion board Cedric had set up on the STA main site and see if it's already listed there somewhere. If it's not there, see if you can add it.

TheSammyKnight

You have any news on the raptor bug with them being able to pounce you off of any creature like being pounced off a wyvern is pretty silly. Thanks for the reply! :)

Yes, that it's like watching a very angry fish take out a hawk in mid-flight.

Nature is crazy, and I'm not sure that what we can simulate in a video game will ever match the level of hardcore nature can throw at us.

That's sort of news, right?

This isn't technically a bug, but it is a side-effect that wasn't necessarily part of the original objective. The drag weight change is being re-evaluated for alternative solutions to handle the intended objective without the unintended side-effects.

Indeed this issue is known. We caught it in time to prevent catastrophic damage on dedicated servers, but for SP and non-dedicated it still exists for the moment, we recommend putting your rexes somewhere safe until we can get the fix out to clients.

HammerTrollerHD

Nope, not from my experience

Yes, that was an unintended side-effect. Alternative solutions are being evaluated.