Posts by RiotK3o

joshyfps

can i delete asmtufdriver.sys or will it cause problems?

I can't officially endorse removal of Software that I'm not a subject matter expert on. I'd like to make it clear that the things I've recommended are bandaid fixes, and we're working on greater compatibility layers that should be coming relatively shortly.

I have had players who have removed it without any issue, but I cannot speak for every device regarding this. If you remove this, please do so at your own discretion.

villa277

Oh well, I hope it gets solved as soon as possible. I get that it is a beta and errors are expected. I'm just sad because I got to play the game (and expend some money) and this error suddenly started happening. I will be looking for fixes on reddit anyway. At least you are actually talking and solving problems and being as transparent as possible about it which is better than many developers!.

I certainly get the pain - we're also working on compatibility fixes. Thank you so much for your patience and I understand how frustrating it is to have this, then it's taken away.

NaabKing

My problem (i guess) is with "nvcpl.dll" (from runing "sigverif" it shows me that dll file only), but that is from Nvidia Control Panel, which i CAN'T? (i'm guessing it's important, since it's from Nvidia) remove, i updated to the latest drivers (i only install drivers without GeForce experience) for my GPU tho (GTX 1080ti) and it didn't help, so i'm lost here now, i can't do anything anymore, since i don't have "VBoxUSBMon.sys" file in my system32/drivers folder also.

Name - Modified - Versionnvcpl.dll - 25.02.2020 - 8.17.14.4250

What can i do? =/

Could you DM me with your logs from C:\Program Files\Riot Vanguard\Logs ? Compatibility changes are coming soon, but I'd still like to make sure your issue will be covered.

Bobbyjoemcgeek

i fixed asmtufdriver.sys issue by going to asus driver tools website (https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87PRO/HelpDesk_Download/) then selecting windows 8.1 64 bit as my OS, despite my OS being windows 10 64 bit. Then going to USB drivers, downloading "ASMedia_U3_FW_update" and running it

Great! Hopefully more people this. These drivers are only being disabled because they're unsigned and spurned by Secure Boot versions of Windows (yes, including VirtualBox to the downvote brigade, new versions do not have this issue), we're not stopping safe software!

We're still working on compatibility fixes, but it's great to hear that updates can fix a lot of these issues.

As closed beta progresses, the faster these guys will be spun out of the game.

Thanks for the concern, and thanks for your patience in sticking with us and dealing with these players.

Taylor1350

My friends kept asking why you keep doing the beta key thing through twitch instead of just making it open, and I told him it was to slow down cheaters making fresh accounts after being banned. Am I right?

Game is a Closed Beta, and obviously, a lot of things in the game aren't quite there yet for the competitive experience we want the game to be. But it's a good compromise to get excited players in, while being able make sure we're scaling and ready for a full launch.

nir432

When can we expect access in ASIA?

Can't give a specific date, but Summer 2020 is still our intended launch.

LansinGG

Thanks a lot for all your hard work!

Have you thought about the almost 100% accuracy while walking and people abusing binds?

Thanks!

Yep. Data science and behavioral modeling is going to be part of our approach too.

xingx35

Any eta with an update for Anticheat?

Working on some compatibility and quality of life changes for early next week

IAmAGoodPersonn

The cheat updates with patches like the game or you can do live updates?

The Anti-Cheat has an independent patch line throughout this closed beta while we're working on compatibility and updates.

ShadonicX7543

Can I send you my support ticket number so you can help with my problem as well?

Sure!

ZeroKiller

I was excited for the update to help me troubleshoot, but still no luck. vgtray.exe seems to run fine, but the vgc service still will not start (even after vanguard reinstall). Manually trying to start the service gives the following error:

Windows could not start the vgc service on the Local Computer.

Error 1: Incorrect function.

Trying to manually start vgc.exe gives the following error:

Windows cannot access the specified device, path, or file. You may not have the appropriate permissions to access the item.

Please god help me. I also have ticket ID #47827789 open if you need logs.

Edit:

Thanks to Riot's K3o for the fix. One of the earlier fixes I tried was related to those bcdedit commands. I must have fixed the driver issue and forgotten to turn it back off.

If anyone else is having this issue after fixing all driver issues, make sure to run cmd prompt command bcdedit /set NOINTEGRITYCHECKS OFF

DMing a fix to your issue

Cicciopalla001

Can i know the fix too?

The player edited their comment with the fix (NOINTEGRITYCHECKS was on), I just didn't want to publicly post it out of privacy respects.

Your issue may be different - Player Support has pretty good steps for finding known configurations that can cause issues.

KyoJeRO

Can't really say anything about na server. But I see bunch of scripts pre-loaded into pc cafe in Vietnam all the time. https://imgur.com/nRigWnt

Beside the obvious cass, kalista, xerath script, how would you really notice.

This account seems to have been banned a long time ago. Scripts are definitely more prevalent in Vietnam, albeit still comparatively rare - the most popular ones are still banned very quickly these days.

If you have any accounts or scripts that you know of in Vietnam that are not banned within a few days, you may always message player support or me directly so it can be looked into.

newworkaccount

Will we have a legal guarantee that you aren't accessing and selling data from our machines? A kernel-mode driver is God mode access for most people (who don't run virtual machines, or OSes other than the proprietary ones in their processor/baseband).

Additionally, what can you say to reassure us that your kernel driver will have a small attack surface? Building a driver meant to hook and examine memory access is basically malware by another name, and it would be very convenient for a malware dev to exploit a prebuilt driver like this, particularly as Windows has increased restrictions even around Administrator accounts.

I do understand why anti-cheat needs kernel mode drivers, but that definitely doesn't mean I like it. I also can't help but worry about a company owned by a company that famously does siphon up user data elsewhere (that is, Riot is owned by Tencent).

In terms of Data Privacy, we have a strong commitment to it, including and beyond regional laws. A little bit more here:

https://www.riotgames.com/en/news/protecting-player-data

For the second question, aside from saying that our quality assurance, testing, and commitment to security is high, I can also say our team has lots of experience in this field. Our team has members who think finding zero-days is a recreational activity - we know how if you give any vector for abuse, someone will go after it. The team also knows what a vulnerable driver can do - we've fought against our fair share of cheats using them.

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just_a_little_rat

a Xerath Q can't go cross map and 1 shot you no matter how hard you're scripting.

well yeah except for that one time

factoids

xMetix

There are some boring scripts like aimbot and there are some sick exploits like that one time Ashe allowed champions to do stupid things This is my favorite use of that exploit (Fucking Cannon rush...) I wouldn't even be mad seeing this live but there were also Fiora Ults on level 1 and Brand ults level 1. It was wild lmao.

DR TERRIBLE comes to mind when thinking about exploits and League. His flashes can still be seen on the Summoner's Rift at night.

Also that one cheater in Overwatch that managed to pick the custom PVE bosses IN A RANKED GAME

Also I was wondering, if someone managed to make a really smart bot that actually played the game and played it at a high level how long would you watch it out of curiosity before banning the account? Would you let it get challenger?

Those exploits were certainly legendary, fun in retrospect but very game-ruining and frustrating at the time.

Realistically, we wouldn't let that bot continue to play. Sentient Skynet sounds interesting but also a nightmare for competitive integrity.

vaynebot

The reality is that scripting in this game will only make you marginally better (like 1-2 divisions), which is why there is relatively low incentive to cheat. This in turn means that almost nobody ever feels like they lost a game due do a cheater, got frustrated, and started cheating themselves.

How good Riot's technical anti-cheat is will show once they release their shooter.

Edit: Something to consider, if Riot actually manages to keep their shooter mostly cheat free without tons of false positives, they will be the only company in the history of competitive FPS titles that managed to do it.

We still have a slew of people trying to cheat in League, and players who are experienced in the way of spacebar do have decent winrates in the game or two they get to play, but I agree with you - a Xerath Q can't go cross map and 1 shot you no matter how hard you're scripting.

Going to plug our recent article on the technical upgrades we'll be making to ensure our future games have the same standard League is held to:

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/dev-null-anti-cheat-kernel-driver/

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dagoto

I think that is a Sion script.

When you see suspicious activity like this, make sure to use the in-game reporting for Third Party Tools. This actually helps in getting these players gone from the Rift even faster.