AneuAng

That there are plentiful examples of why CCP say one thing and do another. How changes CCP make do not have the desired outcome and how CCP favour certain groups of players over others, need I bring up bob and T20?

Point is here, you come out with your soundbyte of wanting blackout to be permanent because you know it plays well with Reddit. It’s your job, you are a community manager. Your job is to make what flows down from above you palatable for players, but what I am seeing in addition to this is a pandering to a specific type of player that has caused CCP massive issues before. Maybe you don’t care anymore? Maybe you know the trajectory of the game is down from here?

Eve is a microcosm of hundreds of different play styles that CCP used to know was the strength of Eve, you’ve turned it into a bitter and twisted rage fest where people are even more vile to one another than I have ever seen before. I hope you are not proud of this, and I hope you realise that pandering to one group will simply accelerate the decline of this game.

I'll have to respectfully disagree with every single point you've made in these three paragraphs.

Feel free to dredge up T20 - I was on the other side of the fence as an angry player when that happened. Completely different company now, completely different people. Your point is entirely moot. Correct, it was a shitshow, and it was dealt with when it happened way back in the day. You screw around like that at CCP these days, you're out of the door. It's as simple as that. I get accused of being biased on a daily basis, and of being a cheater. One day I'm being accused of being biased toward PL, the next day it's GSF. Life goes on.

On your point about soundbytes - news flash - anyone who knows me knows that I don't pander. If I have something to say, I say it. I don't give a shit what "demographic" it plays well with - if I have an opinion on the game as a 17 year veteran of it, I'll be sure to express it, both externally to the community, and internally at CCP. Admittedly that's ca...

AneuAng

Considering past experience with CCP data gathering, you expect a player from 2003 to trust you on this?

I am a player from 2003. Well, 2002 technically.

Your point?

StainGuy

Well trying to be honest here.
English is not my primary language. I read the title ... and my first impression is - it is till the end of the month.
I read the content, trying to not skip details ... ok it is not only for a month.

^{apparently many people skipped some parts in the content}

Like trying to be actually accurate with my assumptions here and showing where and why people can get wrong impression on the length.

Literally yesterday guy jumped on the TS we use and asked what changed as he was not logging in since the blackout started ... and it was meant to end tomorrow.

Dude, I'm just messing with you <3

We said in the same article that the length of the blackout wasn't specified though, so there's plenty of time for it to continue.

StainGuy

Ok i think i see what make people confused :

The initial article was named:
https://www.eveonline.com/article/pu69gy/nullsec-local-blackout-incoming-during-july

Nullsec Local Blackout Incoming During July!

English is not my primary language - obviously - but you can say the same for many eve players.

I just checked and i understand this eg like this :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=during+meaning

during
preposition: during

throughout the course or duration of (a period of time).

So more or less the title of your article is saying.

Nullsec Local Blackout Incoming During for the duration of July!

I am not the only person that read it/understand it this way.
But as i spend a way to much time on reading/podcasts i know that it is not going away - but i constantly hear from people "we need to wait till the end of the month".

Additional information clearing this up for non EN speaking people in launcher will not hurt any one.
I know that many people are waiting for its to end "with the end of month" as i constantly get people on various comms coming and asking "what is happening as i am playing other games atm and waiting"

Oh god, you brought out actual dictionary references.

Jesus Christ.

realmz2012

Happy i quit EVE with the Blackout now just waiting for WoW Classic

ngl, probably gonna give WoW classic a go myself :)

AneuAng

Your data collection is already flawed, with the fact you've introduced so many programs in order to get people to login/kill NPCs and so on, during the blackout. How can that be a good data sample? It's ridiculous, on top of the fact your boss stated that its clear from people swapping to a 64bit client, means they are not risk adverse, what kind of logic is it your are using in your office?

Let me make this plain and simple for you, outside of the echo-chamber that is reddit, which you seem to use as your brain-storming saloon, the blackout is a massive flop. It does not fix the massive issues facing Eve. It does not fix the cyno-mechanics, it does not fix the capital proliferation, it does not fix the terrible sov system in place. Adding more chaos to these already terrible mechanics is not going to fix anything. The game is already one of the hardest MMOs to get into online, adding chaos, making it even more punishing is going to push people away from the game. This is not the way to fix things. Creating incentives to fight, reasons for big player-empires to attack one another, less restrictive and time consuming sov-mechanics, flash points, catalysts for wars. These are things that bring players, as exemplified by multiple data-sources of massive wars in eve.

You are killing your own game, even if the people who want easy kills on reddit are laying down at your feat, praising your every move, the data simply shows that blackout is killing nullsec, which is meant to be a player-generated area of the game, untouched by CCP, outside of structural changes to mechanics. The trajectory of online players is going down. Making the game harder wont change that.

It's not like we have the ability to filter data or anything, right?

LuluHottum

Hey Falcon, any chance we ever see those changes you mentioned to capital ships? I for one agree capitals have no place in ganking small ships and ratting...

They were just my opinions mate, I'm not a game designer :)

We said in the initial communication that we wouldn't be giving a duration for the blackout.

We'll end it when we've collected enough data, until then it'll remain in place.

It's my fond hope that at some point after the test it's reintroduced and becomes permanent, and that we eventually extend changes to local into lowsec too, in some shape or form.

Endo_Riftbreaker

Can you say more about what you mean by “mooring”? I know that term has been used before with regard to citadels, just wondering how it’s distinct from tethering (if at all)?

Separately, totally on board with more risk across the board mechanic wise.

Nope, I'm not a game designer so I couldn't possibly comment :)

This is going to be an interesting thread to keep an eye on :)

Nope - Then again, I don't think tethering should be a thing at all.

Only mooring for titans and supercarriers.

hematocheziarocks

CCP Blue Falcon

Was that an Expanse reference? 0_o

MoDeMFoX

Your comment made me think the following.

The scene right after that in the car, windows all steamy:

Falcon: Hilmar stop being a carebear, I want to show you how you wreck the purple doughnut.

Hilmar: No, that's an exit Only... Oh Falcon...

Falcon: This is how you create destruction!

Falcon later pulls out of the brown doughnut and proceeds to reenact the EVE gate, spewing little vessels all over "New Eden"...

End Scene.

And now everyone knows how twisted my mind is! LOL

You've got issues mate.

Yep, the text on this one was a bit screwed up - it's been fixed now :)

Jesus Christ dude, lol

(✿◕‿◕✿) gonna chill and cook some steaks this weekend! (✿◕‿◕✿)

(✿◕‿◕✿) hope you all have an amazing weekend, stay safe out there! (✿◕‿◕✿)

It can be confusing for some new players, but our patch notes are based on the current development branch that we're working in.

Given that the last release was the June release, we're still working in the June 2019 branch (known as FIRBOLG internally). Next release will be August 2019 (GOBLIN internally), so the patch notes will move over from being part of the June to the August release. :)

Rule of thumb is to look here: https://www.eveonline.com/articles/patch-notes

Current release patch notes are the highest on the list, and within the patch notes for that list, most recent update is at the top :)

Hope this helps!

Enjoy the changes! :)

wingspantt

I honestly wonder if there's a reason Falcon is being so open about these opinions lately. Typically in a community relations role you don't want your community manager spending a lot of time hyping up players about stuff that has zero chance to happen. It makes me wonder if, even if this isn't what's slated, it aligns in the general direction of some changes CCP has planned.

No, this is not the case - this is just me spitballing ideas, as I've said many times in both these threads.

There should be no expectations here.

Originalfrozenbanana

I just hope you don't have a mob of PMs come after you for siding with the fanbase about changes on the roadmap. I mean I honestly want everything you said, and I would love to play that game - I just worry that you're gonna catch heat for this.

That's the beauty of it - I literally sit and talk to our CEO about this kind of thing.

We're highly encouraged to be open about our opinions, and to discuss ideas... I'm not concerned about it at all :P