I just want to thank you that dead champions are greyed out, we had some HUDs who would barely grey them out and i could not see for my life which champions were dead oof.
Is the visibility good on 480/720p too?
<3 thanks!
We are aiming for higher legibility at lower quality settings too, but we need more testing. To be honest compression is a wild ride, and we already know that a lot of the in-game icons we are using (for items/champs) don't handle it well :(
Got real nervous there when lane gold diff wasn’t in the screenshots, that and objective timers are the most important things of the HUD to me. Looking forward to see it in action soon!
Edit: I hope it’s visible most of the time, if you have to continuously scan the interface to not miss when the important stats are visible I know I personally lose out on a lot of details of the gameplay
Yeah totally! And I think there's definitely consistent feedback here on reddit that people want the gold delta to be visible most/all of the time. Something we will look at iterating on!
Got real nervous there when lane gold diff wasn’t in the screenshots, that and objective timers are the most important things of the HUD to me. Looking forward to see it in action soon!
Edit: I hope it’s visible most of the time, if you have to continuously scan the interface to not miss when the important stats are visible I know I personally lose out on a lot of details of the gameplay
Makes total sense, and that is good feedback. We are monitoring how "distracting" the rotating info is and tweaking accordingly. We are also tracking the fb here re: lane gold delta for sure :)
I haven't been able to figure out if there is anyway to tell which team won the feats of strength in the current HUD. Is there an indicator for the feats of strength winner in the new HUD?
Yes there is! It's hard to say if Feats are supported currently because there are a lot of HUD variations out there (most regions have their own style). But it's for sure in this one!
Overall I like the new design. Not expecting anyone at all to agree with the following, but my own thoughts:
Vertical scoreboard is nice
I don't mind the rotating widgets as long as the rotation time makes sense. Certainly don't change every second, but don't leave it for 10 seconds, either. Guess it depends on how many rotations there are because if someone wants to see what's on rotation #1 but they just missed it, it would suck to have to wait around for rotation #2 and rotation #3 and rotation #4, by which time they might miss #1 again. And the animation should be more on the subtle side so it's not drawing my eyes away every single time it changes to something else
Don't mind too much either way about inside-out or outside-in for dragon stacking, but if you want to emphasize the "race to soul" then it makes sense to have outside-in. If you want it to resemble in-game, then maybe it should be changed in-game, too
Hard to tell if a team has objective bounties. In the first screenshot, there's a 600g icon below the Baron timer, but is it an objective bounty for a specific team? If blue team is getting bounties, why is there no bounty under the dragon timer? I like in the LCK overlay there is a glow around the turret icon in the scoreboard to indicate bounties, so maybe a glow around the bubble or something
Head-to-head needs to have gold differences visible all the time. Would be nice to see gold on hand as well
Personally don't like the hp/resource info, but I understand it being there. Maybe instead of bars that no one can count (for hp, especially for tanks), have their actual health displayed like "1952 / 2740" or "73%" or whatever. I feel like XP is more important to see than resources, so if XP can't be squeezed in somewhere, replace resource bar with XP instead
I've always disliked having the ult/summoner cooldown timers be the filling clock style because it's hard to tell if a spell is actually available or is a few seconds away. Having a timer would be nice but would probably be bad for clarity, so maybe have a gold border or something around the icon to indicate that the spell is actually ready would be nice
I like having death timers over the portrait, especially in the head-to-head display. Currently in some regions it can be hard to tell if a champion is dead by looking at it (LEC, LPL, LTA). LCK has a nice red background to highlight a champion is dead, but the red text timer is illegible
Can't tell from the screenshots, but it would be nice to see available charges for an item (wards, etc) or smite from the scoreboard
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't have an opinion on player cam size/location. I don't care too much about them because they're not very helpful most of the time anyway, and during team fights you can't see them either. Plus, I think player cams are a few seconds behind gameplay
I like the LCK's way of highlighting champion portraits in purple for Baron buffs, but that's the only time I see it. Not for Atakhan or anything else, and no other region. At first I didn't even see it in the screenshot provided, but now I see the white outline. I don't know if that indicates Elder or something else, and maybe I'll learn after seeing it live for the first time, but otherwise it should be color coded. Unsure of what to do if a team has multiple buffs, though (top half purple, bottom half white/whatever for elder?)
Is there something that's supposed to be displayed next to health bars when in vertical mode? From the screenshot, there's a big gap because of item slots 5+6, so I wonder if something is supposed to be displayed there or if it can be better optimized. And again, don't care for lines in health bars, would rather see numbers, but in vertical mode I guess it doesn't matter too much since that would indicate there's a teamfight going on
Definitely in the minority, but I don't care about runes. I'm fine with them being rotated or whatever else
Someone else mentioned not needing to see KDA/cs in vertical mode for fights and I agree
For an Atakhan tracker, knowing which side and/or which form would be nice, but maybe a little difficult? One suggestion is to have the timer flipped based on the side he spawns. For example, looking at the icon for dragon, there's the icon for ocean on the left side and the time to the right of the icon. If Atakhan is spawning bot side, have the timer on the left side of the icon (which would then call for having the dragon icon to be on the right side as well, since dragon spawns bottom), and a slightly different icon for Ruinous vs Voracious. This way the timers are all still in the top right corner of the screen. Probably a silly idea, but just spitballing
Wow this is so much insight! Really appreciate you taking the time to write this down, the good and the bad!
I do think Atakhan is going to be something we continue to fiddle with. It’s new and the power has changed a bit as it is balanced so we don’t want to over or understate it visually. Hard balance.
Agreed that space around health in vertical mode needs to be optimized. And likely fits into the broader feedback of health/resource being a bit off already.
LCK does indeed have some good outlines for buffs. I think the gold outline for bounty is a start, but you would be surprised how many people don’t know that it is meant to signify bounty. That was another learning in our testing labs.
Anyway, this is step one in the journey. If we can get the general shape right (placement and groupings of info), the fine details will be easier to solve long term.
Read moreIs the drop still available? I can't seem to find it and I'm logged in on lolesports.com and on Opera GX browser...
It should be active, but it isn't available in all regions - where are you located?
Just tried to watch MAD lions vs PSG. The play button only plays game 1. There is no way to watch game 2 and 3 as far as I can find on the site.
Once you are on the VOD watch page, in the bottom left corner you should see a game selection tool for games 1 / 2 / 3. Do you see it on this page, bottom left? https://lolesports.com/vod/112966697102367363/1/cNq3_PFw508
I claimed this drop 8 hours ago or so, and it only said "Available in your League of Legends loot tab", and there's nothing there. I don't know if there's gonna be other drops, if there are exclusive live drops to opera gx (seems unlikely). As usual, getting information on these things is impossible.
Hmm, it should be there. The drop itself is an emote called “oh well,” it’s Shen dressed in the TPA worlds season 2 costume. If you can’t find it let me know and I’ll do more digging.
I will take a look Monday on why it isn’t clear in-game what the drop is.
We can definitely do a better job clarifying the drop contents on the website. The content was locked super late so we had kept it generic at first. Thanks for the feedback 🙏
What even is the Opera GX drop? Is it just a esports capsule or limited emote?
The drop is an exclusive emote - season 2 TPA shen :)
Oh there it was, sorry. The fact is, the yellow dot didn't appear, so I didn't even think to check there (not knowing what to search for). Seems like a consistent bug that's happened to me for months, new emotes and icons not making the dot appear (happened to the Heheh Okay Tristana emote as well but at least I knew what it was). Thanks for the help!
Glad you found it! And also thanks for the extra info on why it was hard to find.
I found the vods on home. I have noted a new issue with spoilers, I know this isn't the correct forum for reporting issues, but hopefully this can be addressed before worlds is over.
You can reproduce the issue like this...
Start on Home Find PSG vs PNG, click play Note game 1 VOD starts at 29:25 (Game start) Note game 2 VOD starts at 13:52 (Game start) Note game 3 VOD starts at 1:02:27 (Exact freeze frame with massive text spoiling the outcome of the game)This really kills all the hype of watching the games on VODs. I am sure the video URL timestamp can be updated.
Where should I report issues like this moving forward?
Hey! you can send them to me and I can def relay that feedback to the broadcast folks who are cutting the VODs. Sorry about that :(
Hey, still cant even find the VODS. Tried to watch last week's games elsewhere and they got spoiled for me.
The new site is atrocious for this the use cases of "Want to know when games are" and "Watching game VODs later", which are the only two reasons I ever visit the website. What was the rationale behind the changes made?
Hey gnomehouse, can you tell me more about not being able to see VODs at all? There are some leagues that we don't support fully (like NACL or LPL sometimes). But for most major leagues (LCK, LEC, LCS, etc.) VODs should be visible within a few hours of the match concluding.
I would also love to hear what is frustrating about finding when games are.
Are VODs no longer being offered on the official site, or did they vanish due to this bug? I still don't see VODs
Hey Useful_Department852, which VODs are you looking for? They are still offered on the site, but we have consolidated all of the information that was on the old /vods page and /schedule page into just the homepage. You can now access VODs straight from home by pushing the "play" button next to a completed match.
Is that not working for you?
Hey friends, super sad this happened during playoffs which is such an exciting time of year. There was a bug regression with the spoiler protection feature. We are working on a fix and should have it deployed today.
I only ever use the schedule page and this not gonna do much to change that.
Not a fan of having a random ligue auto play or all the wasted space on the page.
Well glad you are liking the schedule page haha!
What kind of other features would you like to see on the home page? This is just our first update, we have other stuff planned for the rest of the year. More improvements to home, as well as hopefully getting into standings to improve that page too.
Would love to hear your thoughts!
That's literally the scheduele page with a preview isn't it
Yes, we're definitely porting more of the info from schedule to home. When we were researching the sites the predominant user need is schedule info (when is a match happening, who is playing, what was the result). We wanted to make it as simple as possible to get that info quickly!
The biggest issue with the site was how slow it was. It still seems very slow so IDK how much I care about this
Sorry to hear about the frustrations with speed :(
We discovered some problems with our CDN caching right after launch, which unfortunately was causing a lot of slowness. It should be getting better today. Let me know if you're still experiencing issues!
The International Events is too big. I measured that there could be 420 fakers at 12px arial font there on my 1920x1080 instead. Much more useful use of space if you ask me. A rough draft here: https://imgur.com/a/better-lolesports-sidebar-hire-me-rito-am-free-jvi80DY
We're wasting so much fakers of space.
Wow why didn't our designers think of us? Escalating this immediately.
I hate the redesign but if it means the website is less buggy and I can propely see upcoming games then w/e I just leave it in the background anyway.
Hoping for less issues over time as we make updates. One big bug we recently got fixed was the forced logouts. That one was driving me crazy. Really happy to have it sorted.
What other bugs are you still experiencing?
I think you did a good job, but at the same time, its very simple and yet not super fast. For content its ftching, shoudnt it be much faster?
Yes for sure! We had some issues with our CDN specifically that were preventing any caching, which really impacted performance. We have been slowly rolling out fixes today that should improve it substantially.
More to do this week though!