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Demonising Amazon

Amazon doesn't need any help from journalists to look bad. It's OK to be critical of a multibillion dollar corporation run by a trillionaire. If everything is hunky-dory, they should release the numbers and be totally transparent. If they have nothing to hide, they shouldn't be keeping worker deaths from their colleagues.

It's OK to be critical. It's not OK to blame them for everything just because they are a multibillion company. This article is crap and the data doesn't support these attacks. Envy, on the hand, explains things much better.

4x49ers

wtf do they want then?

Let them stay home to put human lives over profit? Not to be forced to return to a dangerous work environment? To not be treated as human machinery under the guise of being "essential"?

Do you realize that if not for Amazon and other delivery services way more people would be going out to buy stuff, in many cases risk groups? That if we sent those workers home the end result would be way more people getting sick?

Did you even read Bezos' word about Amazon actually LOSING money the next quarter because they're investing $4b on safety measures?

chazzstrong

I mean, there's a very real difference between moving on and forgetting. If you don't think LiS fandom is helping you realize or move towards anything, then there shouldn't be a problem moving past it like you've no-doubt done to dozens upon hundreds of other songs, movies and books in your life. If your mind won't LET you move on, then it's probably trying to subconsciously tell you something.

I always say the game is equal parts nostalgia and wish fulfillment. It either makes you reflect on what you had, or tells you what you want.

There is a nostalgia factor, but I've realized that the part that hurts the most is the scene at the bathroom in the absolutely-wrong-you-should-never-pick ending. Seeing Max there just broke me.

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I think you would feel better if you found some way to process your emotions about the game. When I learn music from the game or draw the characters, I feel like I am getting to spend more time with them.

Thanks. I've always been pretty good at managing my emotions and moving on... but somehow in this case it feels like I'd be betraying a friend or something.

CakeEuphoria

You don't. When i finished the game indidnt even realize there was already a steady stream of tears pouring out of my eyes until it dripped on my lap. This game changed my life and i don't ever regret playing it.

I don't regret playing it either, even if I still want to cry sometimes when I think of it.

Corporal_Fairway

Only started playing LiS a couple months ago. I finished BTS a couple days ago. The endings to both games hit me really hard, BTS even more so.

I'm still not fully over it. I can't look at Chloe or Max, or hear any of the dialogue without getting some sort of post-series depression or something lol. I don't even want to play LiS 2, I don't really care about anyone else but Chloe and Max. Apparently there's an official LiS comic that continues the two's story after the 'Sacrifice Arcadia Bay' ending so I'll have to look into that but yeah, it hit me hard.

This is exactly how I feel.

Comics are good, at least the fact that they're sanctioned by Square makes me feel like that's the canon finale. But I found some of the fanfic better than the comics, tbh.

StormofCretins

Don't try.

I honestly don't really want to. This story and setting seeped into me so immediately and thoroughly it did something that almost never really happens to anyone over 20 - it changed my mind. And more precious to me, it actually got me off my ass to do creative writing for the first time in literally 10 years instead of just sitting around thinking I had an idea for a story and never working on it. Life is Strange moved me and overwhelmed my imagination more than anything in popular fiction I've encountered since "Buffy". This is bigger for me now than Star Trek, Star Wars... it's a big deal.

I don't know if I ever don't want to feel this way, and if how it's made you feel is anything like it made me feel, I'd strongly consider the possibility that there's nothing worth getting over it for. If there's something that's even capable of moving you this much, it won't give you a choice when it comes anyway.

That's actually amazing to hear. I'm not sure I want to get over it either.

andiipuliafico

Literally felt the same way. I’m a crazy bitch of emotions tho so ya know. I can’t even describe the feeling this game gave me! But now I love sharing it with people who have never played it & the people who never even heard of it!!! I listened to a podcast too about it. I haven’t played it in a long while but am having my boyfriend start it once we get through our list of games I made for him to play + me replay with him

I suggested my wife that we should play it together but after seeing how it affected me (I'm not usually moved by movies or TV shows at all), she refused completely.

Mo_Salah_

You don’t.

It’s a game that stays with you.

I mean, calling it a game is doing LIS a disservice. It’s a story that will stay with you and the characters do tend to effect you in real life.

For example, I’ve seen many people say how they now gauge what they’re looking for in a friend/girlfriend by their favourite character in the game, usually ends up being Chloe lol

Time helps you get over it, like with everything important to you/shocking stuff etc.

Getting over it is the wrong phrase though imo because it’s not something you want to get over. It’s a really enjoyable story that you probably will always recall and think about every so often.

Kinda like Game of Thrones, you’ll be heavily invested in it for a long time, possibly forever but that unhealthy obsession with it does die down (Thankfully 😅) after a while.

Don’t worry, we all go through the LIS Depression haha.

Agree, the game is just the medium in which LiS touches us. I think the music and the voice acting is the biggest reason why it's so powerful.

Jakobabs

I stayed in this sub, checking every post for a while, until I made my post about how I was affected by the game. Something that really helped was when school picked up and I just got too busy to check. Haven’t really felt the need to visit the sub, but I still do on occasion. I played LiS for the first time last summer, and I am so glad I did. The first few weeks are always the hardest, but it goes get better

Thanks, I hope so!

Imhaveapoosy

It gets boring when you replay it like 10 times. Also you must be nostalgic over something in your past to feel this way. So maybe try to bring those things into your life, or relive them. Or maybe it's something different for you. For me I guess I see that as true love and friendship. If you care to share, maybe it would help.

I do have honest love and friendship in my life. I'm an empathetic person though, I could just relate to their pain as the story progresses, especially in E4 and E5.

As I mentioned above, I think that what really broke me was seeing Max broken in the bathroom during the wrong ending.

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I never "got over" it but I definitely found some coping mechanisms to process my emotions over the game. It spurred a creative renaissance for me where I was inspired to learn guitar, pick up piano again, and make some art related to the game. Learning Koethe songs on guitar and drawing the characters from the game helped me re-connect with the game when I was missing it. I would encourage you to find a creative way to channel your feelings. I still think about the game often but it is more of a constant warm presence in the back of my head these days.

Thanks, I'm not feeling any creativity right now but it's still good to hear how it helped other people.

Honestly, I don't see how Kate survived either way. Even if you pick Bay, not using your powers or changing the future based on what you know means that Kate will jump.

So as much as I liked the character, I always thought she was dead no matter what path I took.

spacemarine42

This is not true because Kate appears at Chloe's funeral in the bay ending.

Which I think is just a miss from the devs. Without Max' powers, Kate dies.

Yeah, if you can't handle that episode well braze yourself for the next two. They get orders of magnitude worse.

spacemarine42

I'm not certain I agree. For one thing: if the authorities investigate the Dark Room shortly after Chloe's death, Kate may learn what was done to her and be dissuaded from her suicide attempt. More importantly, in my opinion, Max would be able to reach out to Kate more in the weeks after that day, and offer more emotional support than she would have had the events of the game not taken place.

I think Max taking into account what she learned with her powers to save Kate fits very well with the arc that the game tried (and in my opinion failed) to develop for her: she realizes that her true power lies not in her supernatural abilities but in her capacity for compassion and determination to do what is right.

Why would they investigate anything?

Whether it's to alert the authorities, or to save Kate, the fact remains that Max acting in any way influenced by what she knows (and shouldn't) will probably trigger the storm. It's not saving Chloe that starts it, it's changing the timeline in any way. Saving Kate is no different from saving Chloe in this context.

spacemarine42

In that case, the storm is inevitable no matter what happens, since even in the bay ending Max's experiences will alter her personality and actions (like smiling when she sees the butterfly over Chloe's coffin) once she reenters the original timeline on Friday. So congratulations on finding another plot hole in the haphazard ending to Life Is Strange, I guess?

Agree. Which is why saving Chloe is always the best choice.

spacemarine42

I think Max can do better than such an out-of-character moment as exchanging a wordless gaze with her girlfriend in the ruins of the town she destroyed, and then driving away from the survivors.

The ending sucks. The decision is still the right one.

Great analysis. Matches a lot of the main points I had in mind and expands with others. Thanks for sharing!