Posts by RiotAether

Riegerick

I guess Zoe is joining the yearly skin club, lovely.

The season start video that just went out talks about skin numbers a bit. We made more than 100 skins last year and we're trying to hit 120+ this year, so if we can maintain these numbers moving forward, most champs should be in the yearly skin club~

Ahlysaaria-

Hm. I'm kinda surprised that they nerfed the normal Ocean Dragon but not the Ocean Dragon Soul. Like, I got that one twice and it becomes almost impossible to die. In one game I just stood and facetanked a Aatrox as Lux healing more than he did with his ult popped. (The Aatrox wasn't feed or ahead but still the healing was really nuts and we just hit each other till his ult ran out and he eventually died unable to kill me fast enough trough the regen)

The other Souls seem fine to me; strong yet not "Game-over broken." But with Ocean Soul you just don't die unless you get super focused and burst down making ot almost impossible to lose teamfights. But don't know, maybe thats just me.

Nerfing the drakes indirectly nerfs the souls, in the sense that you always have to have at least two stacks of a drake before getting its soul (eg. if you get the first four drakes you've gotten elements A, B, C, C and the soul for C). Based on our early data it made sense for us to nerf the drakes and let that carry over to the soul, but I can also see situations in the future where we'll just change a soul, or change the drakes and do a counterbalancing change to the soul to keep its overall effectiveness unchanged..

Lord_Charles_I

Aether I have to ask. You wrote:

the earliest Elder can spawn is 26:00 plus time spent in combat with the drakes.

If I understand correctly that can't be right. The first 3 drakes are unique. So lets say Cloud 1st at 5 minutes, Inferno 2nd at 10 minutes. From now on, only mountain spawns.

  • 1st mountain at 15 minutes
  • 2nd at 20 minutes
  • 3rd at 25 minutes
  • 4th at 30 minutes

So in a complete stomp, the earliest is actually 36 minutes disregarding the time spent with taking them down.

Am I getting this wrong?

You don't need four of the same drake to get a soul, just any four drakes! So timing would be 5/10/15/20 mins for the four drakes, then Elder at 26.

Rouge_means_red

Rename Maokai's ult to Twisted Treeline

I sent this to the team over slack last night and got a crash bandicoot reaction. Not entirely sure what that means for the future of this suggestion but wanted to give you the update.

Rainoutt

Hey u/The_Cactopus or /u/RiotAether , why arent any balance changes on the champions besides Senna (On ARAM)? Are you gonna nerf or balance the champs with all this changes in another 2 weeks or are you gonna hotfix them if they are broken? Thanks for all this changes, have a nice day.

9.24 will have our first round of balance changes based on preseason in 3 weeks (long patch!), and if anything is egregiously busted (like, egregious and not just 'this got stronger') we'll hotfix before then!

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does this still hold after support item is fully completed? in low elo, support mages farm so much, and this would really hurt

Tribute/Spoils go away when the support item is completed so the answer can be yes or no depending on your perspective

::edit:: To signal boost below conversations, the penalty doesn't go away anymore, even when the item is fully upgraded. For added context, this is a harsher rule than with the old items, since mage supports in particular turned into mid-lane mages with 4 wards after finishing Eye of the Watchers. Especially with the 1400 gold free gold supports are getting, we're now saying "you can have either regular farm gold [by selling the item] or the Warding passive, but not both."

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Hawly

30 seconds x 0.55 (45% CDR) = 16.5 seconds

16.5 seconds x 0.6 (Cloud Drake 40% Ulti CDR) = 9.9 seconds

9.9 seconds x 0.75 (Ultimate Hunter 25% Reduction) = 7.425 seconds

Or something like that.

HERE HAVE MORE MATH

Ult CDR (Cloud Drake, Hunter) sits in a different bucket than regular cdr. Ult and regular multiply with each other (rather than adding the numbers together) to get your final ult cdr. Here's the extreme case which requires:

  1. A fully stacked Ultimate Hunter from Domination
  2. Cosmic Insight from Inspiration
  3. 40% CDR
  4. The elemental rift being Cloud
  5. The enemy team getting drakes 1 and 2 (which can't be Cloud), and you getting 4 out of drakes 3-7 (which are all Cloud)

Regular CDR: 5% from Cosmic Insight + 40% from other sources = 45%

Ult CDR: 40% from Cloud Drake + 25% from Ultimate Hunter = 65%

So your ult cooldown = (100%-45%) * (100%-65%) = 55% * 35% = 19.25% of its original. For Gnar that's 5.775 seconds so OP was basically right.

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Neville_Lynwood

Cool. I love pre-season. Gives that S1 vibe all over again. No idea what the meta will be, no idea what half the shit does because I don't care to memorize the patch notes so I'll have to play to learn.

I like the support item changes, gonna open up some interesting picks.

But it seems like mage supports, damage or enchanters, got giga fucked early. Less damage from support items AND no more mana regen. That's gonna hurt like hell.

Of course more money for core items. Interesting for sure.

No one should memorize the patch notes except coaches and analysts. Everyone else should memorize the parts that are important to their champ/role/playstyle and figure the rest out from experience.

Source: A patch notes writer.

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WE ARE WORKING ON IT

you make it sound like editing a few words in an html file takes a village lol

you'd be surprised ._o

123skh123

GP E now triggers Teemo Shrooms? What?

IT WAS WRITTEN BACKWARDS WE ARE WORKING ON IT TY

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"With this one change, we're hitting two birds with one stone. We're weakening Kai'Sa's late game isolated burst damage, but bolstering her ability to stave off her enemy's attempts to push her away from minion waves"

That's an awfully generous interpretation for a straight nerf

Something got lost in translation here; the line should read "We're weakening Kai'Sa's late game isolated burst damage and bolstering her opponent's ability to push her away from minion waves in lane". The two birds are early and late game, not strength and weakness. Working on getting this updated!

OnlyAnEssenceThief

In retrospect you're probably right, in fact that'd be hilarious as fuck if this was just Shio fucking with the community while (once again) giving special attention to her favorite champion. Two birds with one stone.

can confirm she is fucking with the community

Hey friends, gonna early-confirm that Winter Rift isn't coming back this year. As OP correctly called out, the Elemental Rifts will all need to be updated for the snow thematic for us to bring it back. Since all our resources have been going into making the baseline experience as great as possible, we aren't gonna be able to update Winter SR in time.