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(2019) Can Kuva liches get a garuanteed drop of something useful (some kuva, a forma, anything)

This thread was added on November 16, 2019, with posts from rebulast.

Original Post

So there are three reactions I have to kuva liches when they generate and this post is really about the last:

  • Kuva lich with a new weapon: Awesome I get a new weapon bring it on!

  • Kuva lich with a weapon I already have but with a higher stat: Ok a bit meh but at least I get something useful out of it.

  • Kuva lich with a weapon I already have but with a lower stat: Guess I get to fight you for literally no benefit whatsoever and suddenly it feels like a pointless slog.

It'd just be nice to have some kind of garuanteed useful drop of some kind so that even when your lich has a completely useless weapon it doens't feel like you've wasted 3 hours to recieve absolutely nothing. Perhaps this drop could only be recieved when you convert a lich so that you don't get it ontop of a brand new or improved weapon on a lucky roll.

Capt_Ido_Nos

That might be a bit much, given that is many many times the amount of kuva you get from the hourly kuva flood on a base level. Considering that a lich takes 3-5ish hours on average to take down, I think that at least matching a flood's output over that same time would be fair and rewarding. I wouldn't say that going 20-50x the amount is fair, that's just way too much, but I think that something like 4.5l-6.5k would be a range that would be both rewarding considering the time spent, and not a windfall every time.

We plan on adding Kuva (scaled up by rank), so by the end of a Lich encounter (if rank 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 all encountered) you would have at minimum 5,000 Kuva. Since you are likely to repeat the final rank 5 encounter, you'd make out with more. And if you're lucky on the Requiems, you may make out with less.

Numbers not final, but that's the ballpark.

RaY0n

Thank you for your answer though don’t you think people will abuse that system by deliberately failing their encounter? Wouldn’t making that drop a one time per Kuva lich level be better? I fear that people failing their lich on purpose will hinder a mission pace, leading to some salt from the community.

Yup, could be bad, we'll have to account for that!

----Val----

A quick warning, don't let people infinitely repeat rank 5 encounters because I can already smell people repeatedly farming the living crap out of it.

We'll have to account for that for sure, nothing comes easy with good intentions :P

12ozdietchoke

Does it share with squad? It sounds really busted if it does. Imagine multiple liches spawn and get up to 20k kuva in a 5 minutes mission. But if it doesn't share people going to complain like with the murmur.

Game balancing is really hard eh.

Game development is an eternal Kobayashi Maru.