B_Kuro

We’ll update everyone when we’ve dug deeper and have an action plan.

I would argue you guys have dug your hole deep enough by calling a mechanic you created an exploit as soon as it gets inconvenient to you. Its a nice freudian slip you had there. "Good" to know your real thoughts. We'll remember that and file it next to all the other cases where this happened (Staticor,...). You really seem to think your community appreciates being lied to continiously.

Way to go on the "we will do better in the future"-goals though. You are making a lot of headway there. Its in the wrong direction in case that was lost on you...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

ProfessorGruselglatz

you just CAN'T be serious about this....

you don't want oplinks to be healed by venari? ok disable it for oplinks ALONE! If you don't want the Oplinks be healed by abilities, i understand it.

If this quick nerf was due to spaghetti-code and you couldn't remove the oplinks alone, TELL US.

whats next ? no more varazin dash healing? no more healing from ancient spectres ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

goldfish7740

Using a warframe's ability as intended is an "exploit"?

Jesus what a mess you've put yourselves in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

BleedOutCold

Firstly, the terminology of calling Venari’s Defense Target healing a ‘fix’ was incorrect, so apologies there on my behalf.

BS - it was a nerf, you knew it was a nerf, and you decided to call it a fix because you hoped it'd create fewer waves. Oops.

Nobody believes you guys on this kind of thing anymore, and with good cause. You have zero credibility here. I have no idea how you can fix that, but it's where you've put yourselves.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

MajoraXIII

Well, thank you for communicating with us. Personally, I hope you revert the change, since having more options for protecting objectives is a good thing I feel, especially when very strong alternatives exist.

I don't feel like you're saying it was an exploit, but a lot of people are reading it that way.

Thanks for staying respectful :) https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

Vulane

How about stopping with the ability exclusions though? The defense targets have health, healing abilities heal health.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

kaian-a-coel

You can't just put something in tips and then turn around and call it an exploit because you don't like players using it in an event you made after forgetting about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

JGamingToo

It really sucks that time and time again players are continuously discouraged from using a diverse range of warframes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

Nomicakes

So something the game itself advertises you can do, is now an "exploit" and requires fixing.
This isn't the first time in recent memory that DE has removed a feature and called it a bug or exploit.

Such a disappointment. Have you absolutely no shame, with the state of the game and its development/design choices in the past 12 months?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

MontyDillo

this just reads as "we're going to nerf more of them."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

xPhilip

There needs be be alternate ways to accomplish the same goal.

Whether that be limbo trivialising it or venari healing etc, it gives players options and a choice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

raidenexo

Is everything an exploit to you? Real wild in general, you saying the team will look into more of this just goes to show that the team will nerf every frame thats reliable within the event, sorry I meant "fix" cause you guys can't even stand up and say directly its a nerf. You always have to say fix cause apparently using a feature of a frame is a bug to you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

Willy_Donka

You guys need to stop these back-to-back fuck ups. I'm getting tired of seeing failure after failure from DE. DO SOMETHING GOOD PLEASE, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO PISS OFF THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/fugurk/dev_workshop_healing_defendable_targets/

Boner_Elemental

Near all buffs??? Neat

Edit: With the current nerf to Venari I was sure this review was going to end up with "Only players get healed". Quite the welcome surprise to end up with "Healing is a viable alternative to damage blocking when defending"

But, uh...

Trinity - Blessing 50% Damage reduction

Isn't this 75%?

Oh yes, fixing if unmodded.

sippher

Can you guys explain this, u/rebulast ?

X-posting some information we just shared in forums here:

We made a hasty change in Hotfix 27.3.6 that removed Venari’s Heal aura from affecting Oplinks AND Defense Targets. Firstly, the terminology of calling Venari’s Defense Target healing a ‘fix’ was incorrect, so apologies there on my behalf. It’s correct to say it was a feature for Venari, considering it had its own Tip for it! The change stemmed from our desire to resolve Operation exploits as quickly as possible, and we didn't communicate this properly.

We’re doing a deeper review on abilities that heal Defense Targets that we can speak to in the coming days.

Apologies as well for the late reply on this topic. We’ll update everyone when we’ve dug deeper and have an action plan.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1180847-operation-scarlet-spear-titania-prime-2737/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-11474532

anotherDocObVious

/u/rebulast or /u/DE_killerkarpfen - can you please have the devs take a look?

I know you guys are all WFH and have lots of things in your plate (wrt scarlet spear) but, please. Haven't been able to play any kuva missions in quite a few weeks now.

This is fixed pending deploy this week.

ToaChronix

/u/rebulast please this is getting silly - lock-on has been broken on all archwing melee weapons except the Veritux/Prisma Veritux for months now.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1175030-arch-melee-lock-on-range-broken/?tab=comments#comment-11436898 Known yup T_T

Dragrunarm

That's a huge relief to hear! Probably would be a good idea to mention that in the launch notes with the event so that people don't freak out again.

It'll be there in the 'HOW TO' operation guide

atejas

If its not a 'serious' time gate, then why have it at all? Not trying to be rude, just want to understand your reasoning here

To give human beings a break and break up scoring intervals.