ThatOneParasol

How does dealing Triple Damage interact with dealing Double Damage? Can a hit both deal double damage AND triple damage? Does dealing triple damage override dealing double damage? Inquiring minds need to know.

EDIT: How does having this weapon affect a skeleton warrior's base damage and their attack time? Is this higher base damage? Lower base damage? I wish we had actual minion numbers somewhere in the game so that we could check.

Triple Damage overrides Double Damage. If you have both, it's the same as just having Triple.

Also, Double Damage will be fully boolean in 3.12 instead of stacking in a weird way if you had multiple non-chance sources apply to a single hit.

ThatOneParasol

How does dealing Triple Damage interact with dealing Double Damage? Can a hit both deal double damage AND triple damage? Does dealing triple damage override dealing double damage? Inquiring minds need to know.

EDIT: How does having this weapon affect a skeleton warrior's base damage and their attack time? Is this higher base damage? Lower base damage? I wish we had actual minion numbers somewhere in the game so that we could check.

Triple Damage overrides Double Damage. If you have both, it's the same as just having Triple.

Also, Double Damage will be fully boolean in 3.12 instead of stacking in a weird way if you had multiple non-chance sources apply to a single hit.

MiteBCool

For all the naysayers: Pretty much any normal attack the Skeletons do will be considered "with this Weapon". The weird wording is likely to avoid silly edge cases such as Minion Instability gaining Triple Damage.

As such, all Added Damage effects will be Tripled here (3x). With Unholy Might, anything that gives Added Physical Damage is instead effectively 3.9x stronger. That includes Carrion Golem, Abyss Jewels, Rallying Cry and somewhat notably Champion's passive skill Master of Metal.

Converting all Physical Damage to Chaos will also enable some shenanigans with the built-in Wither debuff. An army of 12 Skeletons with just the 21% chance on the sword will, on average, maintain 7 Wither stacks (or 42% more damage, effectively). Add in a Withering Touch gem to your link and you're looking at all 15 stacks for a whopping 90% More damage; now 1 point of Added Physical Damage translates to 7.41 Chaos damage before even factoring in support gems.

With proper gear support this thing is gonna make for fun builds. It could even be a nice way to play a Champion summoner that's not totally trash.

For all the naysayers: Pretty much any normal attack the Skeletons do will be considered "with this Weapon". The weird wording is likely to avoid silly edge cases such as Minion Instability gaining Triple Damage.

The main reason for limiting the triple damage bonus to their hits with the weapon is so if you have this in your off-hand it's not applying triple damage to skeletons that are still using their regular base weapon instead of the unique.

MiteBCool

For all the naysayers: Pretty much any normal attack the Skeletons do will be considered "with this Weapon". The weird wording is likely to avoid silly edge cases such as Minion Instability gaining Triple Damage.

As such, all Added Damage effects will be Tripled here (3x). With Unholy Might, anything that gives Added Physical Damage is instead effectively 3.9x stronger. That includes Carrion Golem, Abyss Jewels, Rallying Cry and somewhat notably Champion's passive skill Master of Metal.

Converting all Physical Damage to Chaos will also enable some shenanigans with the built-in Wither debuff. An army of 12 Skeletons with just the 21% chance on the sword will, on average, maintain 7 Wither stacks (or 42% more damage, effectively). Add in a Withering Touch gem to your link and you're looking at all 15 stacks for a whopping 90% More damage; now 1 point of Added Physical Damage translates to 7.41 Chaos damage before even factoring in support gems.

With proper gear support this thing is gonna make for fun builds. It could even be a nice way to play a Champion summoner that's not totally trash.

For all the naysayers: Pretty much any normal attack the Skeletons do will be considered "with this Weapon". The weird wording is likely to avoid silly edge cases such as Minion Instability gaining Triple Damage.

The main reason for limiting the triple damage bonus to their hits with the weapon is so if you have this in your off-hand it's not applying triple damage to skeletons that are still using their regular base weapon instead of the unique.

MiteBCool

I completely overlooked that but it makes total sense. Thanks Mark!

A lot of people in the office overlooked that for a while as well, until I pointed it out and got the item changed :)

MiteBCool

I completely overlooked that but it makes total sense. Thanks Mark!

A lot of people in the office overlooked that for a while as well, until I pointed it out and got the item changed :)