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Mathematical Analysis of Heartseeker

This thread was added on April 09, 2025, with posts from ekimarcher.

Original Post

Hello r/lastepoch,
As I am sure you have seen, Heartseeker is looking very good but I wanted to mathematically analyse the effect of extra recurve chance and Shadow Weaver's Grasp nodes. You can enter your own inputs to this Desmos graph calculator I made and create your own scenarios. Without further ado here are some values:

Recurve Chance # of Curves w/o SWG of Curves w/ SWG 97.5th Percentile w/o SWG 97.5th Percentile w/ SWG
100% 2.7549 3.3547 5.6970 9.5797
125% 3.7548 4.3546 6.6970 10.5797
150% 4.5237 5.1389 7.6792 11.5700
175% 5.1559 5.7904 7.7134 11.5801
200% 5.7978 6.3986 8.6951 12.5732
225% 6.2919 6.9467 8.7226 13.5607
250% 6.7979 7.3987 9.6952 13.5732
275% 7.1936 7.8026 9.7165 13.5807
300% 7.6183 8.2509 10.6846 14.5727

As you can see while SVG does give ≈0.6 recurves no matter your recurve chance on average and ≈4 recurves when you get quite lucky, it also introduces immense variance due to long streaks of getting lucky. But since there is no downside to this node I am not sure why someone would decide not to take this since SWG was only a single node away from the starting node on Karv's stream. If the skill has multiple more damage multipliers on its tree then this skill could very well become The Single Target skill for Marksman.

You're certainly right that it was...